Photography

The PHASE ONE IQ4 151MP Camera System: Is It Worth It?

Lunch in Lower Stanley © Jeffrey H. Lubeck – MESH Art LLC – all rights reserved.
And Who Might You Be? © Jeffrey H. Lubeck – MESH Art LLC – all rights reserved.
Seating Available Upstairs © Jeffrey H. Lubeck – MESH Art LLC – all rights reserved.

PHASE ONE is now delivering production versions of its latest Flagship offering – the XF IQ4 151 Camera System.

The Danish manufacturer announced the system upgrade in August 2018, with the intention this new offering would further widen the gap between themselves and the competition as the provider of the best and most powerful commercially available camera system in the marketplace.

It is not my intention to duplicate specification sheets of the offering.  The nuts and bolts are located [here].

Founded in 1993, PHASE ONE has been on a relentless mission to create the best high-end offering available in the world for almost 10 years running.

The Bottom Line

Has PHASE ONE met their goal of creating the new Standard Bearer? Is the price of entry worth it?

After 30 days of use, the answer to the first question is – at least in my opinion – yes.  As each day passes I get more comfortable with this determination.  However, I could change my mind over the next few weeks of heavy duty field testing. Another aspect that could change my mind is the timeliness of delivery of features and functions promised by PHASE ONE.  In my opinion, PHASE ONE is clearly pushing the envelope (which if implemented correctly is a great thing) and has missed some deadlines on providing features and functions from a firmware perspective (which is a bad thing).

The answer to the second question is a qualified yes. If the money you make for selling a fine art photographic work or a body of work from a photo shoot will ultimately pay for the disproportionately initial high investment – then yes.

In my case, people can walk into MESH Gallery and view the image above (Lunch in Lower Stanley) at 72 inches – On Canvas Framed.  They can purchase a Limited Edition version from 24 inches to 144 inches in size.  When the artwork is larger than 40 inches the IQ4 150 is proving to make a a material difference in the quality of the results.  Less than 40 inches? – not-so-much.

The answer to the second question is yes – if money is no object and ego, or the desire to own the latest shiny new object rules the day.

When PHASE ONE announced its new offering, the advancement being suggested was material if not astonishing:

A new sensor architecture

A material increase in resolution (101-151 Megapixels)

A new technology platform to support the sensor

Capture One Image Processing Software embedded into IQ device

While I am a person willing to consider new propositions, I do become skeptical when major hype is included in the announcement (e.g, seamless, future-proof, promotional material includes pictures of female models boxing in Cuba).

When PHASE ONE stated their new platform was named “Infinity” – I will admit I rolled my eyes with a bit of sarcasm.  Well… I have the product in hand and after 30 days so far so good – so I may have to eat some crow.

However, from a Risk Management perspective, a ground-up product change is highly challenging from delivery perspective and PHASE ONE is doing so with the IQ4 150.  However, the risk is materially mitigated given my relationship with my vendor.  I have my IQ3 100MP for the A-B Comparison and until then, I feel I am good to go.  This situation has always been the case.

My plan is to field test and post my thoughts on the new system over the next few weeks.  My goal is to provide observations and opinions based on real-world use of the product.  I will attempt to provide a narrative that is not drowned out by pixel peeping, while at the same time is not filled with generalities and platitudes.

Backstory

I am an early Adopter. VHS over Betamax (although Betamax was better technically, licensing would favor VHS). I bought into and enjoyed Laserdisc and DVD from the start.  I chose Bluray over HD-DVD (although HD-DVD and Bluray were similar, politics would favor Bluray).  I bought into the Macintosh and MS-Windows graphical user interface platforms since their market introductions (actually prior to). I use both platforms to this day, but also have Chromebooks and Android devices.

In 2012, as the owner of the best Canon, Nikon and Sony 35 MM formats could offer in the marketplace, I considered, evaluated, and chose to invest in PHASE ONE and the larger sensor 645 format system they advocated.

The choice to move to the 645 platform was not easy.  The decision was compounded by the fact that the PHASE ONE offerings are expensive.  Before making the move, I carefully evaluated and field tested the offerings from Leica, Hasselblad, and Pentax.  The problem for Leica, Hasselblad, and Pentax is they licensed cropped, non-full-frame offerings based on older technology digital CMOS Sensors.  PHASE ONE chose to go 645 Full Frame and then developed with Sony the next two generations of digital sensors – 16 Bit, 101MP 54mm x 40mm Frontside CCD and 16 Bit, 151MP 54mm x 40mm Backside CMOS.  The three Letter Acronyms and terminology is gobbledeegook to 99 44/100 of the population.  So where do I sit?  I chose to make the jump and have been rewarded handsomely on a variety of fronts since.

Over the past number of years, PHASE ONE bought out and brought in house one of the standard bearers of the 645 body and camera lens makers (i.e., Mamiya). For the past 10 years, PHASE ONE has worked with Schneider-Kreuznach to create the best lenses available for their 645 offerings.  The PHASE ONE work with Sony on the digital sensor has already been pointed out previously.  While there have been hiccups along the way, PHASE ONE made it clear their XF (Camera Body) and Blue Ring (Lenses) and IQ (Digital Back + Sensor) were to be the very best available in the market.  At the same time PHASE ONE – in my opinion – remained smart and savvy, and continued to support the Technical Camera Body manufacturers (i.e., Alpa and Cambo) and the lenses they used (e.g., Rodenstock) that work with the PHASE ONE Digital Back offerings.  I own a full WRS 5000 Technical Camera kit from Cambo and supported lenses.  While the margin of difference is shrinking, if I need a 10 out of 10 from a photo-shoot and shot – the WRS 5000 Cambo Tech Body, Rodenstock or Schneider Lens, and IQ Sensor is Paper Money Daddy!

Another crucial aspect is having a resource to assist in identifying and selecting equipment and or upgrades that ultimately will prove to be in your interest.  Equipment such as we are discussing should not be bought without it.  I cannot stress this point more empathically.  For me, that means Steve Hendrix, Brad Kaye, Dave Gallagher and Capture Integration of Atlanta.  The relationship is in year seven and is stronger today that when it started in December of 2011.   Steve, Brad, Dave, and CI have advised, consulted, represented my best interest, and most importantly protected me from myself.  Your voice activated auto advisor does not meet that standard.  In short, do not fool yourself; you get what you pay for and there are no free-lunches.

It should be noted that I am my own guy and have not been remunerated (I love this term) by PHASE ONE, Steve Hendrix, Brad Kaye or CI in any form or manner for my comments or remarks.  I continue to use, purchase, and enjoy 35MM related camera gear (from Nikon, Sony and Sigma) and encourage you to to do so as well if it is best for your situation.  The Mirrorless platforms are pressing the Digital Single Lens Reflex (DSLR) platforms in a big way. I also shoot with my Apple iPhone if the situation warrants – and make no apologies or condescending remarks when doing so.  I mean what I suggest and imply.  While I think highly of PHASE ONE gear, photographing Mother Mountain Goats and their babies (less than 10 days old) in the high peaks of the Rocky Mountains without disturbing them called for the Nikon D8XX camera bodies and the Nikkor 1000MM Lens.  We brought along PHASE ONE Gear as well on the climbs that entailed 3,000 – 4,000 vertical feet of ascent with the starting point being 7,000 feet elevation.  Having both platforms available served us well.

If you have aspects you would like for me to test and comment or you would like a link to my Dropbox page for the actual image files to review yourself:

Test #1 – Compare the image sensor capture of the product to one of its predecessors: IQ4 151MP versus IQ3 100MP

I decided to compare the IQ4 151MP against my current back the IQ3 151MP by performing an A-B Comparison using the same XF Camera body, and Phase One lens with all settings being equal.  The camera profile was to capture the image using the default settings of Outdoor daylight and Film Contrast.  The images are displayed side by side in Capture One without any adjustments.

Note:  Click on the image to view in larger size. For review on a web-page the comparison result is more directional than comprehensive.  RGB images in 72 dpi will not yield anything definitive.  Therefore, all the the actual images in this test can be made available to you if desired.

IQ4 151MP image starts with a P

IQ3 101MP image starts with a CF

Scene #1: The entrance to my home.  AM 22 minutes after sunrise in January Temperature 12 degrees Fahrenheit

The images at 100%

Scene #2: The entrance to the Lift Tower Lodge.  AM 60 minutes after sunrise in January Temperature 14 degrees Fahrenheit

The images at 100%

Scene #3: The entrance to the Sun Valley Lodge. AM 45 minutes after sunrise in January Temperature 14 degrees Fahrenheit

The images at 100%

Scene #4: The entrance to the Kentwood Lodge. AM 50 minutes after sunrise in January Temperature 14 degrees Fahrenheit

The images at 100%

Scene #5: The entrance to the Sisters Store. AM 50 minutes after sunrise in January Temperature 14 degrees Fahrenheit

The images at 100%

Scene #6: The office lamp. 22 minutes before bed in January Temperature 70 degrees Fahrenheit

The images at 100%

Scene #7: Winter on the Harriman Trail. AM 3 hours 10 minutes after sunrise in January Temperature 27 degrees Fahrenheit

The images at 100%

Scene #8: Lunch in Lower Stanley. PM 4 hours 20 minutes after sunrise in January Temperature 25 degrees Fahrenheit

The images at 100%

The Digital Sensor Considered in Context to Film.

The images from the eight scenes above are compared as captured and unprocessed. Digital images like their film counterparts do need processing to achieve an accurate, acceptable end product.  There are (in history) about 32 major makers of still-camera film for print.  Each offers/offered various products that were created to handle different ISO levels, light sources, grain, contrast, tint, and other aspects.  As a photographer you needed to pick from one of them when shooting and take advantage of or be subject to its design bias. The beauty of the digital sensor is you do not have to pick as it captures an image and can be processed for basic aspects such as White Balance, Color Balance and Levels.  It can be processed further given the ISO as shot and light source. The image can be processed further to achieve a desired effect that is available given the sensor’s dynamic range and levels of gray scale/color depth.  The image can be processed (or edited) even further in what most people term photo-shopped; (e.g., change color from red to blue, make the moon larger, add or remove something such as a fence or person, etc.). All from the same single image.  I do enjoy it when a proper noun (Photoshop from Adobe Systems) becomes a verb in practical conversation.

A list of photographic films is [here]

The PHASE ONE IQ4 150 Device provides a tremendous advantage to a photographer.  The IQ4 150 offers 151 megapixels of 16Bit Color uncompressed RAW natively.  Virtually no other commercially available digital camera provides such a capability.

PHASE ONE 16Bit (and lower with and without compression if desired).

Nikon: 8Bit, 12Bit and 14 bit

Cannon: 8Bit, 10Bit and 12Bit

And what is the implication of xxBit color –

16Bit: 65,536 available colors and tone

8Bit: 256 available colors and tone

Below is Winter on The Harriman Trail using some basic White Balance and Color Balance (processed via Capture One 12)

Image at 100%

Jeff’s Crib Notes and Comments
Subject Plus Minus Comment
Sensor Size 22 or 28% larger than IQ151 depending on how you measure None really No visible difference in sharpness over IQ3 100.  Difference starts to reveal itself at 40 inches and bigger given larger image size.  This aspect is an important advantage for my work.
Sensor color capture Seems to be much more natural than IQ3 100 A bit too much magenta at times. In general I like the results more than the IQ3 100 except for whites at times being too magenta.  IQ3 100 a bit too much cyan at times.  This is the trade-off with sensors.  Would be interested in how it compares with Tri-Color
Time from Boot to Shoot Ready to shoot in 10-11 seconds vs 23 seconds for IQ3 100 Occasionally comes into play and has reduced some levels of wait-time frustration.
Cold Weather Operated at 4 degrees Fahrenheit when IQ3 100 did not fire off a shot during test. Occurred on three different occasion.  If device is effectively better in colder weather, this is a big deal to me.
Storage No more CF cards Only one of two slots operating until firmware update Much faster operation and has reduced some levels of wait-time frustration. Always worried about Sony controlled memory structures.
Features and Functions Big upside Some Features and Functions I like are promised but yet to be delivered. What is missing are nice to haves at this point – at least to me. I have been promised they will be delivered.  For seven years PHASE ONE has kept its word,. At this point, I have no reason to believe otherwise.
Electronic Shutter & Cable For Technical Camera Crucial for long-term shooting I have a work around in place thanks to CI that will test next.  Do not use in the winter on the top of a 12,000 peak in 4 degree Fahrenheit weather after a full day of climbing. Will need as spring appraches.

Next POST:  The IQ4 151 Digital Back used with a Technical Camera

27 Replies to “The PHASE ONE IQ4 151MP Camera System: Is It Worth It?

  1. I’ve read a few good stuff here. Certainly worth bookmarking
    for revisiting. I wonder how a lot effort you put to make any such excellent informative site.

  2. I have been browsing online more than 4 hours today, yet I never found any interesting article like yours.
    It is pretty worth enough for me. Personally, if all website owners and bloggers made good content as you did, the net will be much more useful than ever before.

  3. Excellent blog here! Also your web site loads up very
    fast! What host are you using? Can I get your affiliate link to your host?
    I wish my site loaded up as quickly as yours lol

  4. Hmm it looks like your blog ate my first comment
    (it was super long) so I guess I’ll just sum it up what I submitted and say, I’m thoroughly enjoying your
    blog. I too am an aspiring blog blogger but I’m still new to the whole thing.

    Do you have any helpful hints for newbie blog writers? I’d definitely appreciate it.

  5. agreeable and thank you for visiting online casino agents for Indonesia.

    Here we are here to pay for permission for fans
    of sbobet casino who want to associate the international agent site Promosbobet.

    The products offered are utterly diverse and are unquestionably the best choice.
    Derived from providers that have credibility and have been proven to have the best predicate in serving their customers.
    Providers considering Sbobet, Maxbet and many more.

    As the best online casino and soccer gambling site in Indonesia.
    We provide maximum support like customer hold that works online 24 full
    hours every day. hence members can measure whenever and wherever without fearing to viewpoint the possibility
    of difficulties or confusion.

  6. I think that is among the most significant information for me.

    And i’m glad studying your article. However should observation on some normal issues,
    The web site style is ideal, the articles is in point of fact
    excellent : D. Excellent job, cheers

  7. For anybody who like to enjoy gambling and when you usually are
    looking for partners inside gambling activities, Mabosbet is usually the right choice.

    Mabosbetransfer You can contact our own customer service and make transactions with us.

    Mabosbet livechat is available 24 hours nonstop and is all set to serve you that help you online with gambling.

    Mabosbet. com as the responsible gambling agent, we always provide an alternate
    link to mabosbet in order that members feel comfortable.
    You no longer need to have trouble obtaining an alternate Jababbet link regarding access,
    it is currently available for you.

    We also always give priority to the safety of our members, very rigid
    protecting all the privacy regarding members of Jababbet.

    Trusted Mabosbet From 2010

    Along with good praise, the service from the Headquarters is usually no doubt.

    Friendly, fast response, under 3 moments.

    Mabosbet is highly appreciated by gambling bettors coming from Indonesia because whatever triumph you get will probably be recognized by mabosvip.
    We always want to provide the best for members with optimum
    service. The site mabosmail. com can also be very simple to access, as
    you only need internet access and option links mabosvip, no need to use proxies, news letters, or troublesome applications.

    That is why many folks join mabosbola and create deposits, then, win the match.
    The best plus quality alternative mabosbola option site.

    Come join mabosbet. com the trusted online gambling agent in Dalam negri.

    Contact livechat mabosbet right now in the lower right corner to get a new user
    ID. Welcome to the club.

    MABOSBET is a Trusted Online Gambling Site that has recently been established for more compared to 9 years with typically the
    greatest quantity of online wagering players.
    This gambling site also provides the most complete online gambling game together with the most popular
    betting providers in Indonesia. Online Gambling Games
    that may be played at MABOSBET are Sportsbook Soccer Betting,
    Live Casino, On-line poker Credit card Gambling, Online Slot Betting and Online Togel.
    Mabosbet itself has provided a number of excellent facilities for gambling online
    players in Indonesia which range from 24-hour Live Chat Assistance,
    Bonuses with the simplest conditions, additional wins regarding True Gambling Players.

    This specific MABOSBET Gambling Site also proves to become very
    reliable, while this Gambling Web site can also pay with regard to any winning player without the deductions.
    So you may play gambling comfortably and safely without
    anxiety about paying. In addition to a definite win at
    MABOSBET, you will also offer additional bonuses to offer a different experience playing online gambling.

    JOBI GOLF BALL OFFICIAL SBOBET ONLINE WITHIN INDONESIA
    Online Soccer Wagering has become a very popular online gambling game
    inside Indonesia where every sport has a market for betting.
    MABOSBET is now a good official partner of SGD777 Indonesia, where more as compared to six years has provided football gambling games for
    gambling players in Indonesia. This SBOBET Soccer Gambling Industry allows a fair where gamers will actually be given a
    new live market through the established match directly.
    So you may be very lucky to be able to play SBOBET in this specific
    MABOSBET.

    RELIABLE ONLINE SLOT MACHINE SITE SITE NUMEROUS EARNINGS
    Online slot gambling is currently popular in Dalam negri, where online
    slots are really lucrative with huge jackpots and freespins that are usually straightforward to win. Because associated with that this
    MABOSBET very first provided Online Slot Online games from 2012 for gambling players in Indonesia.

    Where Jackpot is provided a lot more than USD $ just one, 000, 000 for slot machine players who register in MABOSBET.
    The Slot Sport machine at MABOSBET does not just use
    your Equilibrium, the Slot Game has been made with the
    FREESPIN Bonus that comes out there more often, so a person will probably be Fortunately.

  8. I relish, result in I discovered exactly what I was taking a look for.
    You’ve ended my 4 day lengthy hunt! God Bless you man. Have a great
    day. Bye

  9. It’s hard to find knowledgeable people for this topic, however, you sound
    like you know what you’re talking about! Thanks

  10. Exploring every online gambling game upon the internet has become one of the comings and goings most enjoyed by users
    of gambling services nowadays. How not, every the games
    that used to be lonesome enjoyed abroad by people from the upper classes, now you can enjoy without having to leave the home and use a more affordable cost
    to measure slot gambling in the house.

    This is all thanks to internet technology that can be close to online gambling fans taking into account the best gambling further providers approaching the world.
    As in Indonesia itself, the endorsed online gambling agent site similar to
    Depoxito is here to relieve those of you who desire to spend free epoch next tone online gambling products.

    Since its presence in the domestic online gambling industry, Depoxito has presented various types of gambling
    games of the highest quality. Games such as soccer betting, casino, shooting fish, poker,
    lottery, and of course online slot games are approachable similar to international standards because they come from leading
    gambling sites such as Sbobet, Spade Gaming, Microgaming, Playtech, and
    thus on.

    For those of you who desire to try out how thrill-seeking it is
    to decree online gambling upon the endorsed gambling agent website Depoxito, quickly
    register now and enjoy the best online gambling experience that you can’t locate anywhere
    else.

  11. Depoxito is the best online gambling site in Indonesia, later than Depoxito you will air the sensation of playing supplementary and innovative online gambling.
    We always innovate consequently that every our members can setting a sensation taking into account
    playing at a real casino. Depoxito present you the best rouse casino feelings you can get later than all the beautiful and
    sexy dealers, or grand vip saloon private room for our
    VIP aficionada where you can produce an effect one upon one
    in the same way as our special Dealer all just for yourself.

    Luxurious site and VIP class encourage for you, a liberal and easy-to-use site, friendly
    and always friendly Customer assistance to support you.
    Depoxito is the right unusual for those of you who desire to be active online gambling without painful that your winnings will not be paid, Depoxito guarantees that all bet you place and win is legitimate and will be paid without incurring any unwritten deductions.

    Depoxito as a site that is a accomplice of international huge bookmakers entirely will not disappoint you as
    a loyal supporter of the Depoxito site and will continue to point further updates and revolutionize our security system suitably
    that it can prevent our loyal members from the threat of personal data leakage, scam or fraud.

    Depoxito is in addition to a trusted online gambling dealer that provides the most pure gambling games in Indonesia, such
    as sportsbook, slot games, sentient casino,
    lottery and online poker that you can work
    considering just 1 Account.
    In adjunct to the conclusive VIP advance game upon our site, we will pamper you our faithful members
    because you don’t obsession a lot of IDs to fake oscillate gambling games.
    As a gambling site accredited by PAGCOR (Philippines Amusement
    and Gaming Corporation) Depoxito is with one of the number one gambling sites in Indonesia and has a fine reputation from all online gambling players in Indonesia.

    As we have said, we have a customer sustain that is always upon standby to facilitate
    all your needs though playing on our site, including for withdrawals and deposits
    that solitary recognize less than 3 minutes, as a result we can be the best for devotee minister to after that our customer further will standby 24 hour a day and 7 days a week
    to support our devotee and VIPs.
    And the most special from our site compared to other sites is the bonus that we have the funds for to our loyal members who continue to achievement upon our
    site will acquire the best promos and bonuses that we will
    manage to pay for you, we always follow the publicize and trends that are
    viral now as a result the promos that we create are of
    course no less than any site. For VIP members we always present special promos that are not written fittingly that our
    members continue to produce an effect upon our site depoxito.

  12. Ion Casino

    Ion casino is a trusted and best on the internet
    casino site through 2010 which has served millions of players in Asia.
    Ion casino or also known as Ionclub is the particular top ranking selection site because that provides
    the finest experience for internet gambling players in Dalam
    negri. With an official license to operate, this provider guarantees that players create bets without chance, credibility and
    can be relied upon.

  13. For those of you who like to play gambling and when you usually are looking for partners in gambling activities, Mabosbet is the right choice.
    Mabosbetransfer You can contact our customer care and make purchases with us.

    Mabosbet livechat is available 24 hrs nonstop and is all set to serve you that help you online with betting.

    Mabosbet. com as a responsible gambling agent, we all always
    provide an option link to mabosbet to ensure that members feel comfortable.
    You no longer need to have trouble obtaining an alternate Jababbet link with regard to
    access, it is previously available for you.

    We also always give top priority to the safety regarding our members, very rigid protecting each
    of the privacy associated with members of
    Jababbet.

    Trusted Mabosbet From 2010

    Together with good praise, the services from the
    Headquarters is usually no doubt. Friendly, quickly response, under
    3 mins.

    Mabosbet is highly highly valued by gambling bettors
    coming from Indonesia because whatever success you
    get will probably be approved by mabosvip. We usually want to provide the particular best
    for members with optimum service. The site mabosmail.

    com is additionally very straightforward to access, since you only need internet
    access and option links mabosvip, no want to use proxies, news
    letters, or troublesome applications.

    Of which is why many men and women join mabosbola and create deposits, then, win the match.

    The best in addition to quality alternative mabosbola alternate site.

    Come join mabosbet. com the trusted on the internet gambling agent in Philippines.

    Contact livechat mabosbet now in the lower proper corner to get a user ID.

    Welcome to the club.

    MABOSBET will be a Trusted Online Wagering Site that has already been established for
    more as compared to 9 years with the particular biggest quantity of
    online betting players. This gambling site also provides the most satisfactory online gambling game together with the most popular betting providers in Indonesia.
    On the internet Gambling Games that can be played
    at MABOSBET are Sportsbook Soccer Betting, Live Casino, Internet
    poker Credit card Gambling, Online Slot Wagering and Online
    Togel. Mabosbet itself has provided many different excellent facilities for gambling online players in Indonesia starting from 24-hour Live Chat Assistance,
    Bonuses with the easiest conditions, additional wins with regard to True Gambling
    Players.

    This MABOSBET Gambling Site likewise proves to become
    very trusted, while this Gambling Site can also pay with regard to any winning player with no deductions.
    So you will certainly play gambling comfortably in addition to safely without fear of spending.
    In addition to the definite win at MABOSBET, you will also
    offer additional bonuses to provide a different experience
    playing online gambling.

    JOBI GOLF BALL OFFICIAL SBOBET ONLINE INSIDE INDONESIA
    Online Soccer Gambling has become a extremely popular internet gambling game in Indonesia where every online game has a market for betting.
    MABOSBET is becoming a great official partner of BOLA TANGKAS Indonesia, where
    more compared to 7 years has provided football gambling games for wagering players in Indonesia.
    This SBOBET Soccer Gambling Marketplace allows a fair where participants will actually be provided with a new live market from
    your recognized match directly. Therefore you will be
    very lucky in order to play SBOBET in this specific MABOSBET.

    RELIABLE ONLINE SLOT MACHINE SITE SITE NUMEROUS EARNINGS
    Online slot gambling will be currently popular in Indonesia, where online
    slots are really rewarding with huge jackpots and freespins that usually are simple to win. Because
    regarding that this MABOSBET 1st provided
    Online Slot Games from 2012 for wagering players in Indonesia.
    Where Jackpot is provided more than USD $ one,
    000, 000 for slot machine players who register at MABOSBET.
    The Slot Online game machine at MABOSBET does not just use your Stability, the Slot Game has been made with the FREESPIN Bonus
    that comes out there more often, so an individual will probably be Fortunately.

  14. Enjoy the Best Movie of All Time
    What movie do you want in order to watch today?
    Sniper videos may be required about your list.
    This is the most exciting shooting struggle, where every sniper activity is always interesting to be able to watch.

  15. To be able to choose an online gambling site
    that can be trusted and provide the best service, you must know and
    know first with the betting website that you will choose.
    Also make sure the web betting that you find meets the requirements because the best
    online gambling site.

    Do Research in Discussion boards

    The simplest way to make sure you can safely use
    a betting site or not is to read or participate in discussions with people in online gambling
    forums. Individuals in the wagering forum
    are usually experienced players and know which betting sites
    provides the best service.

    Request the gamer

    If speaking about in a community forum is difficult so that you can do or do not know which forum you
    can visit to do research, we recommend that you directly
    ask the more experienced players. In addition you can also request tips and tricks on the best strategies
    that may be applied in the game

  16. If you are playing online slots using real grant for sure, you should pay
    attention to some of this back you finally fail to bring house the victory.
    In this ahead of its time become old you can take
    effect online slots on the order of everywhere, even to create transactions you can then use online bank transfers or even upon some sites you can make deposits using credit.

    Some things that you have to pay attention to are actually quite common, but people often ignore them and underestimate them,
    thus in the end what happens is that the person loses
    all of the initial capital to bet. thus you should
    begin reading another time and listening to some of the later that will create you able to enjoy online slot games without painful just about losing.

  17. Bandar Judi Nova88

    Nova88 is among the best reliable online bookies inside Indonesia which provides been operating given that 2004.

    More than thousand folks register as official people every day at Nova88.com for a single reason only,
    specifically we remain committed to paying members’ earnings.
    Coupled with the upgraded and a lot more superior platform betting system.
    From the Maxbet server migrated to the Nova88 server, customers will encounter
    an improved gaming experience for maximum overall gameplay.

Leave a Reply to agen sbobet casino Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *